
The game is going to die, unfortunately, andthey need to change the ad
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I started playing this game again recently an what I can say is this, it's completely ruined and dead in a year or two if nothing changes for the better. The limitations on resources has made this free game concept into a trial period of about 7 days. It doesn't exactly inspire to building an empire like the ad says. I've managed to get 5 HC's up until now and I'm spending all of them posting this, meaning newbies can speak up once if they have something to say. The game is quckly becoming boring and will probably throw many of the new players off early. What happend to this game, it used to be really good. I couldn't leave it! Until the time of writing this it's been almost ok playing. I've built ships and structures, and done some research. I've built what I can with the few resources I had, and everything as been within limit of the resources I've managed to aquire. The biggest problem I have now, is that I'm loosing ships left and right and it slows down the progress exponentally. I'm rewarded by doing the quests, but it's a joke. Loosing a couple of ships puts me in the negaive. For ships getting lost in space after the fight, those losses don't even leave resources. Hunting pirates is now as a newbie costing more than it rewards. The ships seems to be built with Titanium scotch tape and Paint bottles, they break when there's a tear. I just got a Destroyer ship, and I used it to fight a pirate. My battle fleet was 277 and Gishu (the weakest pirate) was 68, it ended with the destroyer lost in space. Now that do I do? I'm miles away from producing one, I haven't even done the research to build a cruiser yet. I'm a long way from getting the rewards in quest since I've lost the bonus ship that could help me beat some pirates. To advance now, I have to defeat pirates more than 100 points but I've already lost most of my ships in battles. it's going to be days just waiting for the production of resources on my planet to enable me to build. I can currently build something like 5-6 fighters a day or less that half the amount of stealth fighters, but the slow production makes it just boring. How long do I have to wait to get a fleet to battle a 100-point pirate, way too long! I know it's supposed to be a slow pace game, but come on! I can't engage in a fight more than once a week because the resources are scarce and the fog of war stops me from finding inactive players that I can rob. When I do engage in battles, I loose so many of my ships that it's going to take forever because I don't have the resoures It takes what seems to be forever to rebuild a fleet that enables me to overpower a small pirate, and again it makes it boring. I can't do research, because I don't have resources. I can't fight anyone because the research isn't good enough to make the ships stronger. I have to produce a lot more ships because of the lack of research they're taking too much damage and therefore some of them will be lost. I don't have the resources to build because the production is very low. Expeditions are limited too, they took away the control of the search for comets and artifacts by allowing us one discovery a day on average. That includes the illusions... Moving on, how am I going to get a fleet to attack the 2k OPS that's hanging above my planet in time before it leaves? This game has become a very unbalanced for new players, and don't this game need them? I'm more or less bankrupt at the moment, and it only took me 7 days! What to do now? I can start paying, but then again it's supposed to be a free game. If I'm starting premium I'll get 100HC's a month, if I want to buy officers, it's 67% of that for the first level of most of them. When you want to say something in this forum, it's 5%. The value of what you pay for is going down every month, and I don't think it's worth it. When startig a new online game, you want to figure out if the game is interesting enough to spend your money on IF you've figured it out and like to get more serious. I don't think it's a good idea to have to pay first and then figure out if it's worth it. Maybe I'm just stingy?
Don't know if I'm making sense since there's a chance I'm being incoherent so blame the ADHD. This is non the less my rant...
Недавно я снова начал играть в эту игру, и вот что я могу сказать: она полностью разрушена и умрет через год или два, если ничего не изменится к лучшему. Ограничения на ресурсы превратили бесплатную игру в пробный период продолжительностью около 7 дней. Это не очень вдохновляет на создание империи, как говорится в рекламе. До сих пор мне удалось получить 5 HC, и я трачу их все на этот пост, то есть новички могут высказаться один раз, если им есть что сказать. Игра быстро становится скучной и, вероятно, отбросит многих новых игроков раньше времени. Что случилось с этой игрой, раньше она была очень хорошей. Я не мог ее бросить! До момента написания этой статьи я играл почти нормально. Я строил корабли и сооружения, проводил исследования. Я построил все, что мог, используя те немногие ресурсы, которые у меня были, и все было в пределах тех ресурсов, которые мне удалось добыть. Самая большая проблема, с которой я столкнулся, заключается в том, что я теряю корабли направо и налево, и это замедляет прогресс. Я получаю вознаграждение за выполнение квестов, но это шутка. Потеря пары кораблей приводит к тому, что я оказываюсь в неге. А если корабли после боя теряются в космосе, то от этих потерь не остается даже ресурсов. Охота на пиратов теперь для новичка обходится дороже, чем вознаграждается. Корабли, похоже, построены из титанового скотча и бутылок с краской, они ломаются при разрыве. Я только что получил корабль-разрушитель и использовал его для сражения с пиратами. Мой боевой флот был 277, а Гишу (самый слабый пират) - 68, все закончилось тем, что эсминец был потерян в космосе. И что мне теперь делать? Мне еще далеко до производства, я даже еще не провел исследование, чтобы построить крейсер. Я далек от того, чтобы получить награды за квесты, так как потерял бонусный корабль, который мог бы помочь мне победить пиратов. Чтобы продвинуться вперед, мне нужно победить пиратов более чем на 100 очков, но я уже потерял большинство своих кораблей в сражениях. В настоящее время я могу строить что-то вроде 5-6 истребителей в день или меньше половины количества стелс-истребителей, но медленное производство делает это просто скучным. Как долго мне придется ждать, чтобы собрать флот для сражения с пиратом за 100 очков, слишком долго! Я понимаю, что игра должна быть неторопливой, но хватит! Я не могу вступать в бой чаще, чем раз в неделю, потому что ресурсов мало, а туман войны мешает мне найти неактивных игроков, которых я могу ограбить. Когда я вступаю в битву, я теряю так много своих кораблей, что она длится вечно, потому что у меня нет ресурсов. Кажется, что на восстановление флота, который позволит мне одолеть мелкого пирата, уходит целая вечность, и это снова делает игру скучной. Я не могу заниматься исследованиями, потому что у меня нет ресурсов. Я не могу ни с кем сражаться, потому что исследования недостаточно хороши, чтобы сделать корабли сильнее.
Мне приходится производить гораздо больше кораблей, потому что из-за недостатка исследований они получают слишком много повреждений, и поэтому некоторые из них будут потеряны. У меня нет ресурсов для строительства, потому что производство очень низкое. Экспедиции тоже ограничены, они забрали контроль над поиском комет и артефактов, позволив нам делать в среднем одно открытие в день. Это касается и иллюзий... Идем дальше, как мне успеть напасть на флот 2k OPS, который висит над моей планетой, до того, как он улетит? Эта игра стала очень несбалансированной для новых игроков, а разве они не нужны этой игре? На данный момент я более-менее банкрот, и это заняло у меня всего 7 дней! Что теперь делать? Я могу начать платить, но, опять же, это должна быть бесплатная игра. Если я начну платить премиум, я буду получать 100HC в месяц, если я захочу купить офицеров, то это будет 67% от этой суммы за первый уровень большинства из них. Если вы хотите сказать что-то на этом форуме, то это 5%. Стоимость того, за что вы платите, падает с каждым месяцем, и я не думаю, что оно того стоит. Когда вы начинаете новую онлайн-игру, вы хотите понять, достаточно ли интересна игра, чтобы тратить на нее деньги, если вы уже разобрались в ней и хотите заняться чем-то более серьезным. Я не думаю, что это хорошая идея - сначала заплатить, а потом понять, стоит ли оно того. Может, я просто скупой?
Не знаю, понятно ли я излагаю, поскольку есть вероятность, что я бессвязен, так что вините СДВГ. Тем не менее, это моя тирада...
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I started playing this game again recently an what I can say is this, it's completely ruined and dead in a year or two if nothing changes for the better. The limitations on resources has made this free game concept into a trial period of about 7 days. It doesn't exactly inspire to building an empire like the ad says. I've managed to get 5 HC's up until now and I'm spending all of them posting this, meaning newbies can speak up once if they have something to say. The game is quckly becoming boring and will probably throw many of the new players off early. What happend to this game, it used to be really good. I couldn't leave it! Until the time of writing this it's been almost ok playing. I've built ships and structures, and done some research. I've built what I can with the few resources I had, and everything as been within limit of the resources I've managed to aquire. The biggest problem I have now, is that I'm loosing ships left and right and it slows down the progress exponentally. I'm rewarded by doing the quests, but it's a joke. Loosing a couple of ships puts me in the negaive. For ships getting lost in space after the fight, those losses don't even leave resources. Hunting pirates is now as a newbie costing more than it rewards. The ships seems to be built with Titanium scotch tape and Paint bottles, they break when there's a tear. I just got a Destroyer ship, and I used it to fight a pirate. My battle fleet was 277 and Gishu (the weakest pirate) was 68, it ended with the destroyer lost in space. Now that do I do? I'm miles away from producing one, I haven't even done the research to build a cruiser yet. I'm a long way from getting the rewards in quest since I've lost the bonus ship that could help me beat some pirates. To advance now, I have to defeat pirates more than 100 points but I've already lost most of my ships in battles. it's going to be days just waiting for the production of resources on my planet to enable me to build. I can currently build something like 5-6 fighters a day or less that half the amount of stealth fighters, but the slow production makes it just boring. How long do I have to wait to get a fleet to battle a 100-point pirate, way too long! I know it's supposed to be a slow pace game, but come on! I can't engage in a fight more than once a week because the resources are scarce and the fog of war stops me from finding inactive players that I can rob. When I do engage in battles, I loose so many of my ships that it's going to take forever because I don't have the resoures It takes what seems to be forever to rebuild a fleet that enables me to overpower a small pirate, and again it makes it boring. I can't do research, because I don't have resources. I can't fight anyone because the research isn't good enough to make the ships stronger. I have to produce a lot more ships because of the lack of research they're taking too much damage and therefore some of them will be lost. I don't have the resources to build because the production is very low. Expeditions are limited too, they took away the control of the search for comets and artifacts by allowing us one discovery a day on average. That includes the illusions... Moving on, how am I going to get a fleet to attack the 2k OPS that's hanging above my planet in time before it leaves? This game has become a very unbalanced for new players, and don't this game need them? I'm more or less bankrupt at the moment, and it only took me 7 days! What to do now? I can start paying, but then again it's supposed to be a free game. If I'm starting premium I'll get 100HC's a month, if I want to buy officers, it's 67% of that for the first level of most of them. When you want to say something in this forum, it's 5%. The value of what you pay for is going down every month, and I don't think it's worth it. When startig a new online game, you want to figure out if the game is interesting enough to spend your money on IF you've figured it out and like to get more serious. I don't think it's a good idea to have to pay first and then figure out if it's worth it. Maybe I'm just stingy?
Don't know if I'm making sense since there's a chance I'm being incoherent so blame the ADHD. This is non the less my rant...
Недавно я снова начал играть в эту игру, и вот что я могу сказать: она полностью разрушена и умрет через год или два, если ничего не изменится к лучшему. Ограничения на ресурсы превратили бесплатную игру в пробный период продолжительностью около 7 дней. Это не очень вдохновляет на создание империи, как говорится в рекламе. До сих пор мне удалось получить 5 HC, и я трачу их все на этот пост, то есть новички могут высказаться один раз, если им есть что сказать. Игра быстро становится скучной и, вероятно, отбросит многих новых игроков раньше времени. Что случилось с этой игрой, раньше она была очень хорошей. Я не мог ее бросить! До момента написания этой статьи я играл почти нормально. Я строил корабли и сооружения, проводил исследования. Я построил все, что мог, используя те немногие ресурсы, которые у меня были, и все было в пределах тех ресурсов, которые мне удалось добыть. Самая большая проблема, с которой я столкнулся, заключается в том, что я теряю корабли направо и налево, и это замедляет прогресс. Я получаю вознаграждение за выполнение квестов, но это шутка. Потеря пары кораблей приводит к тому, что я оказываюсь в неге. А если корабли после боя теряются в космосе, то от этих потерь не остается даже ресурсов. Охота на пиратов теперь для новичка обходится дороже, чем вознаграждается. Корабли, похоже, построены из титанового скотча и бутылок с краской, они ломаются при разрыве. Я только что получил корабль-разрушитель и использовал его для сражения с пиратами. Мой боевой флот был 277, а Гишу (самый слабый пират) - 68, все закончилось тем, что эсминец был потерян в космосе. И что мне теперь делать? Мне еще далеко до производства, я даже еще не провел исследование, чтобы построить крейсер. Я далек от того, чтобы получить награды за квесты, так как потерял бонусный корабль, который мог бы помочь мне победить пиратов. Чтобы продвинуться вперед, мне нужно победить пиратов более чем на 100 очков, но я уже потерял большинство своих кораблей в сражениях. В настоящее время я могу строить что-то вроде 5-6 истребителей в день или меньше половины количества стелс-истребителей, но медленное производство делает это просто скучным. Как долго мне придется ждать, чтобы собрать флот для сражения с пиратом за 100 очков, слишком долго! Я понимаю, что игра должна быть неторопливой, но хватит! Я не могу вступать в бой чаще, чем раз в неделю, потому что ресурсов мало, а туман войны мешает мне найти неактивных игроков, которых я могу ограбить. Когда я вступаю в битву, я теряю так много своих кораблей, что она длится вечно, потому что у меня нет ресурсов. Кажется, что на восстановление флота, который позволит мне одолеть мелкого пирата, уходит целая вечность, и это снова делает игру скучной. Я не могу заниматься исследованиями, потому что у меня нет ресурсов. Я не могу ни с кем сражаться, потому что исследования недостаточно хороши, чтобы сделать корабли сильнее.
Мне приходится производить гораздо больше кораблей, потому что из-за недостатка исследований они получают слишком много повреждений, и поэтому некоторые из них будут потеряны. У меня нет ресурсов для строительства, потому что производство очень низкое. Экспедиции тоже ограничены, они забрали контроль над поиском комет и артефактов, позволив нам делать в среднем одно открытие в день. Это касается и иллюзий... Идем дальше, как мне успеть напасть на флот 2k OPS, который висит над моей планетой, до того, как он улетит? Эта игра стала очень несбалансированной для новых игроков, а разве они не нужны этой игре? На данный момент я более-менее банкрот, и это заняло у меня всего 7 дней! Что теперь делать? Я могу начать платить, но, опять же, это должна быть бесплатная игра. Если я начну платить премиум, я буду получать 100HC в месяц, если я захочу купить офицеров, то это будет 67% от этой суммы за первый уровень большинства из них. Если вы хотите сказать что-то на этом форуме, то это 5%. Стоимость того, за что вы платите, падает с каждым месяцем, и я не думаю, что оно того стоит. Когда вы начинаете новую онлайн-игру, вы хотите понять, достаточно ли интересна игра, чтобы тратить на нее деньги, если вы уже разобрались в ней и хотите заняться чем-то более серьезным. Я не думаю, что это хорошая идея - сначала заплатить, а потом понять, стоит ли оно того. Может, я просто скупой?
Не знаю, понятно ли я излагаю, поскольку есть вероятность, что я бессвязен, так что вините СДВГ. Тем не менее, это моя тирада...
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3 дня назад
If only they could set back the game as it was 4 years ago 😔.
3 дня назад
4 years ago it was some what playable. (Flights with spacecraft)
There was no fog of war, the entire galaxy was visible.
Among many other changes that does not benefit playability.
The essence of this website, is a digital social experiment in the form of an online game.
There was no fog of war, the entire galaxy was visible.
Among many other changes that does not benefit playability.
The essence of this website, is a digital social experiment in the form of an online game.
3 дня назад
Цитата: Marsman
The essence of this website, is a digital social experiment in the form of an online game.
...or an opportunity for sad-masochists to inflict torture on the unwitting...lol
3 дня назад
This game will not completely die. The devs only need the largest players. They spend a LOT of money on this game, and the devs do everything in this game to force the large players who have invested too much to quit, to spend more. Once all of these big spenders max their accounts out and have nothing left to spend money on, that's when this game will die. That isn't going to happen in a year. They don't need the smaller players.... In fact, they don't even WANT the smaller players that's why they make every change to make the game worse for smaller players.
It seems they have a certain capacity for their servers and they balance the game in a way to keep the server load from maxing out by making it so bad that people just quit or give up. The only other option is to trudge along like some of us who have invested too much time to quit, or to simply give up. They also seem to ban players they don't like. In fact my entire alliances leadership was banned within the last year.... like 30 people just banned and noone knows why. I try to ask but the people who really understand what's going on deeply are Russian, and the translation always amounts to "They play games".... they as in the devs.... So who knows.
All I know is that 4 years ago it was 10x times worse than 6 years ago and today its 50x worse than 4 years ago. They make changes without telling us on a monthly basis, 99.99% of the changes are terrible for the player..... the only good change they've made in the last 4 years is increasing the pirates and making them drop more debris....... Which isn't really a change, as this is how it used to be a couple years ago before they changed it for the worse. So basically the only good change that I can remember in almost 7 years of playing this god foresaken game, is undoing a terrible change they made a year or 2 ago.
It seems they have a certain capacity for their servers and they balance the game in a way to keep the server load from maxing out by making it so bad that people just quit or give up. The only other option is to trudge along like some of us who have invested too much time to quit, or to simply give up. They also seem to ban players they don't like. In fact my entire alliances leadership was banned within the last year.... like 30 people just banned and noone knows why. I try to ask but the people who really understand what's going on deeply are Russian, and the translation always amounts to "They play games".... they as in the devs.... So who knows.
All I know is that 4 years ago it was 10x times worse than 6 years ago and today its 50x worse than 4 years ago. They make changes without telling us on a monthly basis, 99.99% of the changes are terrible for the player..... the only good change they've made in the last 4 years is increasing the pirates and making them drop more debris....... Which isn't really a change, as this is how it used to be a couple years ago before they changed it for the worse. So basically the only good change that I can remember in almost 7 years of playing this god foresaken game, is undoing a terrible change they made a year or 2 ago.
2 дня назад
But they do care about smaller players. Already fighting small players without losses is hard due to 99,9% change. So you can setup your def to make it unprofitable to be attacked. This was not the case before the change. Also you see that lost ships go to :0 coords and already you can see them in the galaxy panel. They did rework expeditions recently. No saves and giving something every 24h only. The next logical thing is to have expeditions being able to return some of those ships. This is exactly aimed for small players since amount of expeditions you can run is limited and does not scale as you grow.
I am quite confident that I am among people most negatively affected by the change to losses since I hunt huge amount of pirates. But still I think it's a very much needed. Communication sucks, but the change does not imho.
I am quite confident that I am among people most negatively affected by the change to losses since I hunt huge amount of pirates. But still I think it's a very much needed. Communication sucks, but the change does not imho.
1 день назад
I don't think you fit into my definition of big player. When I say "big player" I mean big spender... I'm talking about the top 100-200 accounts in this game the accounts that are 20m+ and getting bigger. These guys are rich (or they're guys with unhappy wives who hate this game). How many people do you think spends over $1000 a month on this game? 1 person who spends per month $1000 is more valuable than 500 people spending 20..... More people also costs more money to run the game....
So think about it, right now there are 2200 people online... So say there are like 8k active players (and that's being generous I think) say 30% of them spend money (again, generous... or maybe not who knows) so altogether 20% $20 per month for the sub and say $30 for w.e else... average $50 person month... for example... hypathetically....... So we got 1600 people spending $50 per month (again proly being generous here I don't think that many spend that much) that's $80k per month from small spenders.... Now say 5% spend of the player base spends $500 per month that's $320k and even smaller % spend even more... And the rest play for free...... Well they don't need the freebies they just take up space, so make the game worse and they won't wanna play, but the other spenders who have invested so much are basically stuck, they aren't gonna quit after 3 years of progress and spending..... The point is, they're making good money even if cut everything I just said in half, or even a third..... There's no reason they couldn't expand and make the game better for everyone and reduce the ridiculous prices which could make this game enormous in scope, and would even generate more money. But the devs seem content with what they're doing and they want to keep pulling the same amount or more money without expanding the game because that would take a lot of server space, and hard work. TBH I don't blame them they got a great thing going.... Highlighting the Xerj drone always saying "Mama I'm gonna be OK"
Anyway, for you specifically I don't understand the issue. You have 5m points and you're xerj (meaning you can easily and cheaply hunt pirates with extremely low risk of losing anything when attacking with pancors) you should be able to hunt pirates without any issue what-so-ever. The change shouldn't effect you at all, it's only effecting those smaller players who want to hunt pirates with smaller ships, and who have less. Like I said they did the one good change making pirates drop more debris... the ratio for xerj is back to normal.... The rule of thumb is 1 pancor per 100k debris... A pirate dropping 1m debris? 10 Pancor, and maybe throw in some defilers to be sure. Before the change it was 2 pancors per 100k ever since THAT change they made to pirates a few years ago. Thankfully they changed it back.... It's one of only good changes I've seen in this game.
BTW I think there are a few players who spend far more than just $1k per month if you averaged their spending through a year. I would not be in the least surprised to hear some spend 100k per year. I wouldn't bet against it anyway.... Wouldn't bet on it either, but still....
So think about it, right now there are 2200 people online... So say there are like 8k active players (and that's being generous I think) say 30% of them spend money (again, generous... or maybe not who knows) so altogether 20% $20 per month for the sub and say $30 for w.e else... average $50 person month... for example... hypathetically....... So we got 1600 people spending $50 per month (again proly being generous here I don't think that many spend that much) that's $80k per month from small spenders.... Now say 5% spend of the player base spends $500 per month that's $320k and even smaller % spend even more... And the rest play for free...... Well they don't need the freebies they just take up space, so make the game worse and they won't wanna play, but the other spenders who have invested so much are basically stuck, they aren't gonna quit after 3 years of progress and spending..... The point is, they're making good money even if cut everything I just said in half, or even a third..... There's no reason they couldn't expand and make the game better for everyone and reduce the ridiculous prices which could make this game enormous in scope, and would even generate more money. But the devs seem content with what they're doing and they want to keep pulling the same amount or more money without expanding the game because that would take a lot of server space, and hard work. TBH I don't blame them they got a great thing going.... Highlighting the Xerj drone always saying "Mama I'm gonna be OK"
Anyway, for you specifically I don't understand the issue. You have 5m points and you're xerj (meaning you can easily and cheaply hunt pirates with extremely low risk of losing anything when attacking with pancors) you should be able to hunt pirates without any issue what-so-ever. The change shouldn't effect you at all, it's only effecting those smaller players who want to hunt pirates with smaller ships, and who have less. Like I said they did the one good change making pirates drop more debris... the ratio for xerj is back to normal.... The rule of thumb is 1 pancor per 100k debris... A pirate dropping 1m debris? 10 Pancor, and maybe throw in some defilers to be sure. Before the change it was 2 pancors per 100k ever since THAT change they made to pirates a few years ago. Thankfully they changed it back.... It's one of only good changes I've seen in this game.
BTW I think there are a few players who spend far more than just $1k per month if you averaged their spending through a year. I would not be in the least surprised to hear some spend 100k per year. I wouldn't bet against it anyway.... Wouldn't bet on it either, but still....
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